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PostSubject: survey lang po   Wed Dec 05, 2012 3:43 pm

mga sir survey lang about sa pinaka d'best feeds pra sa mga T at bakit?

b.lateralis
b.dubia
crickets
mealworms/superworms
madagascar hissing cockroach
pinky/fuzzy mouse

add nio na lang po ung wla sa list Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: survey lang po   Wed Dec 05, 2012 4:25 pm

Hmmm...lateralis ako, why? Kasi yun lang pinapakain ko sa ngayon lol..
Seriously now, kasi mabilis sila dumami at low maintenance, di ako nawawalan ng feeders from nymphs to adults..
Mabagal kasi dumami yung iba sa list eh, i have dubia colony and ang bagal dumami, and mabaho at maingay naman daw ang crickets, yung pinkies naman mataas sa calcium=bad molt
In terms of nutritional content, superworm ang may pinakamataas na fat percentage at lateralis naman ang may pinaka mataas na protein content..
Pero nothing beats variety sabi nga nila..
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PostSubject: Re: survey lang po   Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:38 pm

Para sakin , lats ang best na feeders para sa mga Ts , coz they are cheap and mas mabilis dumami kesa sa Dubias .. Afford na afford ng mga hobbyists .. Medyo mabaho ang mga lats pero maiiwasan naman to pag madami ang ventilation holes .. Kahit anung feeders (except small mammals and reptiles) naman ay best para sa mga Ts basta gut loaded sila hehe. drinks
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PostSubject: Re: survey lang po   Wed Dec 05, 2012 10:22 pm

TS variety is the best. Mas maganda kung paiba iba ang feeders na available sa pets natin. Parang tao din yan kung puro lugaw ang papakain sayo malamang isang araw maging homicidal ka na lang.







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PostSubject: Re: survey lang po   Wed Dec 05, 2012 10:26 pm

+1 to sir TipplerMG , mas maganda kung paiba-iba ang ipapakain natin sa mga Ts natin para makuha nila yung tamang sustansya .. Lats and superworms ang pinapakain ko sa mga Ts ko .. Roaches for meats and worms for fats and liquids .. drinks
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PostSubject: Re: survey lang po   Wed Dec 05, 2012 10:39 pm

superworms/mealworms. yun kasi available sapetshop na malapit dito samen. giant hissers sa 2inch pataas na t and scorps kasi yun ang meron ako. 1 gutloaded lang na hisser a week busog kaagad ang ang t ko. but thats me may kanya kanya ways naman tayo
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PostSubject: Re: survey lang po   Wed Dec 05, 2012 11:36 pm

pag malaki na at kaya na, small white mice every 2 months or after nila magmolt. butiki or palaka kung available para once a month ka nlng nagpapakain gaya ko hihi
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PostSubject: Re: survey lang po   Thu Dec 06, 2012 12:06 am

Sir dlonelyboy , pwede bang ipakain yung mga lizard na nasa bahay? yung nasa pader .. thinking
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PostSubject: Re: survey lang po   Thu Dec 06, 2012 12:13 am

for T's especially sa slings lats ang pinapakain ko. pag tinatamad ako manghuli ng lats mealworm...
sa malalaking Ts usually lats/superworm, salit salit per meal nila.

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PostSubject: Re: survey lang po   Thu Dec 06, 2012 12:26 am

Gagamboy wrote:
Sir dlonelyboy , pwede bang ipakain yung mga lizard na nasa bahay? yung nasa pader .. thinking

Okay naman siguro as long as mas maliit sa kanya. Pero syempre andun pa din yung risk ng mga diseases since wild caught sila. Ang point naman ng pagbebreed natin ng mga feeders is to make sure na disease free and nasa control environment sila before natin ipakain sa mga pets natin. Pero nasa sayo naman yun, just my opinion.
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PostSubject: Re: survey lang po   Thu Dec 06, 2012 1:36 am

ok dami ko idea hehe thumbs up

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PostSubject: Re: survey lang po   Thu Dec 06, 2012 2:22 am

Sinipag mag type

This is my list from top to bottom Para may idea ka:
1. Hissers -kasi ito meron ako, low maintainance naglalagay ako ng food and water source then iiwan ko for 1 week bago ko palitan. Walang amoy, instant babies wala ng egg na kailangan pang iseparate. Very high in protein.
Cons: hard shell. Minsan nakakaladkad yung t pag pumapalag. Patayin pag medyo mataas yung humidity. Can climb smooth surfaces

2. Lateralis- mabilis dumami, high protein content, dont make sounds madaling ipakain kasi they cant climb smooth surfaces.
Cons: mukha silang ipis bahay and literal na amoy ipis bahay. Super bilis lagi akong natatakasan nito. Although some like sir gagamboy and others are succesful sa colony nila na maiwasan yung mabahong amoy.

3.worms- high protein and fats, cant climb walls
Cons: they dig sa substrate na pag napabayaan pwedeng pagmulan ng problem in future.

4. Dubia- same sa hissers. Live birth din cant climb walls
Cons: always play dead kaya minsan deadma din mga Ts sa kanila. They also dig sa substrate.

5. Crickets- cant climb smooth surfaces madali ipakain since active sila.
Cons: they jump, make sounds sa gabi lalo pag may mga adults. Low protein content compare to roaches.

6. Mice- no idea , no plan so far.

Again this is only my opinion. Hope That Helps santa
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PostSubject: Re: survey lang po   Thu Dec 06, 2012 2:52 am

sa ngaun lats kasi pinapakain ko

kaso ung nga mabaho pale

kaya bka mag switch ako sa dubia bounce

nag aalangan naman ako sa mealworms/superworms bka bigla sila mag evolve(ganun ba un?) confused
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PostSubject: Re: survey lang po   Thu Dec 06, 2012 3:00 am

@psylence24:Kung balak mo pong pakainin ng mice or kahit anung small mammals or reptiles yung Ts mo .. Make sure na gutom na gutom talaga yung tarantula mo dahil kung hindi , baka hindi nya maubos lahat ng yon (dahil busog na agad) tapos langgamin lang yung mga tira-tira at bumaho pa.

Yung napabayaang superworm sa loob ng enclo. ng tarantula ko , naging beetle sya tapos pinakain ko sa scorp ko , dun na sya nangamoy nung sinipit na sya nung scorp. (amoy sunog na goma hehe) ..
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PostSubject: Re: survey lang po   Thu Dec 06, 2012 9:00 am

Gagamboy wrote:
Sir dlonelyboy , pwede bang ipakain yung mga lizard na nasa bahay? yung nasa pader .. thinking

Nasubukan ko na to sir sa parahybana ko, ok naman sya
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PostSubject: Re: survey lang po   Thu Dec 06, 2012 9:25 am

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Sir dlonelyboy , pwede bang ipakain yung mga lizard na nasa bahay? yung nasa pader .. thinking

Sir you have to remember na usually household pest ang kinakain ng mga butiki tulad ng ipis. At ang mga ipis kadalasan binobomba natin ng insecticides. So kung ipapakain mo sa pets natin ang mga butiki indirectly makakakain din sila ng insecticide.






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PostSubject: Re: survey lang po   Thu Dec 06, 2012 10:49 am

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Gagamboy wrote:
Sir dlonelyboy , pwede bang ipakain yung mga lizard na nasa bahay? yung nasa pader .. thinking

Sir you have to remember na usually household pest ang kinakain ng mga butiki tulad ng ipis. At ang mga ipis kadalasan binobomba natin ng insecticides. So kung ipapakain mo sa pets natin ang mga butiki indirectly makakakain din sila ng insecticide.






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PostSubject: Re: survey lang po   Thu Dec 06, 2012 4:00 pm

sir gagamboy tama si sir TipplerMG, but.. kung hndi ka namn nag i-spray ng insecticide sa bahay nyo (like most invert keepers do) i think safe naman ipakain ung house geckoes.
wag mo lang dalasan ang pakain.
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PostSubject: Re: survey lang po   Thu Dec 06, 2012 10:47 pm

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sir gagamboy tama si sir TipplerMG, but.. kung hndi ka namn nag i-spray ng insecticide sa bahay nyo (like most invert keepers do) i think safe naman ipakain ung house geckoes.
wag mo lang dalasan ang pakain.

Di naman kami nagiispray ng insecticide sa bahay kase magic tsinelas lang gamit namin sa mga insects tulad ng ipis , langaw etc. hehe laughing ... Kaya ok lang siguro na ipakain ko yung mga yon sa Ts ko.
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PostSubject: Re: survey lang po   Thu Dec 06, 2012 11:58 pm

mga sir ask lang gaanu ba tinatagal ng mga mealworms bago maging beetle?
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PostSubject: Re: survey lang po   Fri Dec 07, 2012 12:07 am

Hindi ko nabibilang exactly. Dati kc naiiwan ko sa loob ng enclo un superworms. Parang approx 2 weeks? Kaya lang konting ingat s superworms dahil may tendency silang mangain ng t's lalo nat medyo maliit pa ang t at lalo na kung fresh molt ang t. Defenseless kc ang t's after a molt.

With regards naman sa hissers totoo ba na may mga small thornlike spikes sila? Hindi pa kasi ako nakakakita ng hisser. Kung meron nga may risk dn na mainjure yung t kung papalag yung hisser.
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PostSubject: Re: survey lang po   Fri Dec 07, 2012 12:35 am

Gagamboy wrote:
icemanx2 wrote:
sir gagamboy tama si sir TipplerMG, but.. kung hndi ka namn nag i-spray ng insecticide sa bahay nyo (like most invert keepers do) i think safe naman ipakain ung house geckoes.
wag mo lang dalasan ang pakain.

Di naman kami nagiispray ng insecticide sa bahay kase magic tsinelas lang gamit namin sa mga insects tulad ng ipis , langaw etc. hehe laughing ... Kaya ok lang siguro na ipakain ko yung mga yon sa Ts ko.
Tnx ulet sa infos. sir TipplerMG and icemanx2 !! drinks

Thats your prerogative kung gusto mo pakain mga butiki sa mga pets mo. But I would never do it. Since hindi naman natin alam kung saan nanggaling yang mga butiki. Hindi naman porket nakita mo sa bahay ninyo ay ibig sabihin diyan na lumaki at nabuhay yan. Syempre may chance na nanggaling din yan sa ibang bahay at sa bakuran at siguradong nakakain na ng pest yan sa labas. But like I said you pets your rules.





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PostSubject: Re: survey lang po   Fri Dec 07, 2012 1:03 am

Super agree sir tripple. Possible yun since magkakadikit ang mga bahay dito sa Pinas and hindi mo alam kung san galing yung mga butiki na yun. It can also spread disease lalo na kung contaminated yung feeder and mostly come in close contact sa pets natin. Just my humble opinion sir.
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PostSubject: Re: survey lang po   Fri Dec 07, 2012 1:09 am

tubigpa wrote:
Hindi ko nabibilang exactly. Dati kc naiiwan ko sa loob ng enclo un superworms. Parang approx 2 weeks? Kaya lang konting ingat s superworms dahil may tendency silang mangain ng t's lalo nat medyo maliit pa ang t at lalo na kung fresh molt ang t. Defenseless kc ang t's after a molt.

With regards naman sa hissers totoo ba na may mga small thornlike spikes sila? Hindi pa kasi ako nakakakita ng hisser. Kung meron nga may risk dn na mainjure yung t kung papalag yung hisser.

Yah pero blunt naman yung horns nila and usually sa adult hissers na yunlumalabas. Mas prominent and sa males na horn kaysa females. Sa nypmhs walang prob parang mga lats lang itsura nila na dark. If magpapakain ka ng hissers make sure na malaki yung T ng twice ng size ng roach medyo malakas ang legs nila na puwedeng makaladkad and T mo. Minsan 1/4 na lang ng body ng hisser and natitira gumagalaw pa din. Freaky nga minsan.
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PostSubject: Re: survey lang po   Fri Dec 07, 2012 1:26 am

I change my mind , di ko na papakain sa mga Ts ko yung mga lizards dito sa bahay kase possible nga na yung ibang lizards dito sa ay nanggaling dun sa kapitbahay namin na madalas nag iispray ng insecticide ..

Buti na lang nabasa ko agad tong comments nyo mga sir , naka ready na kase tong mga nahuli kong lizards para ipakain sa mga Ts ko eh haha.
Tnx ulet sir TipplerMG and dondon , niligtas nyo buhay ng mga Ts ko haha lol!
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