Exotic Pet Owners Community
 
HomeExotic RealmFAQSearchRegisterLog in
*** Buy @ our Premium Members Petshop *** Early Bird's Feeders Shop / Norin's Lucky Gecko / Suave Dude Shop / Tattoo's Shop<-- ***
°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸Welcome to Philippine Exotic Pets°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸

Share | 
 

 Outdoor Enclosure For Sailfin Dragons

View previous topic View next topic Go down 
Go to page : 1, 2  Next
AuthorMessage
yanz.vm
Senior Member
Senior Member
avatar

Male
Posts : 128
Location manila
Join date : 2013-01-29

PostSubject: Outdoor Enclosure For Sailfin Dragons   Wed Feb 13, 2013 1:48 pm

I am currently in the works for an outdoor enclosure for my sailfin.
question ko lang po,is it safe for the sailfins to be left overnight sa isang prototype outdoor enclosure? okay na po kasi yung daytime temperature, worry ko po yung sa nighttime.
Back to top Go down
View user profile
dlonelyboy
Pet Legend
Pet Legend
avatar

Male
Posts : 1893
Location Carpentaria
Join date : 2012-10-03

PostSubject: Re: Outdoor Enclosure For Sailfin Dragons   Wed Feb 13, 2013 1:58 pm


they originate in places na may masmalamig na night time temp kesa sa urban cities so you dont have to worry about that. kung prototype enclo dapat escape proof yan at di mapapasok ng daga at mga ipis na posibleng contaminated with pesticide
Back to top Go down
View user profile
yanz.vm
Senior Member
Senior Member
avatar

Male
Posts : 128
Location manila
Join date : 2013-01-29

PostSubject: Re: Outdoor Enclosure For Sailfin Dragons   Wed Feb 13, 2013 4:45 pm

dlonelyboy wrote:

they originate in places na may masmalamig na night time temp kesa sa urban cities so you dont have to worry about that. kung prototype enclo dapat escape proof yan at di mapapasok ng daga at mga ipis na posibleng contaminated with pesticide
iuuwi ko na po kse sa province yung mga alaga ko. madalas po na malamig sa gabi dun. natatakot po kasi ako baka kapag iniwan ko sa labas mamatay sila sa lamig.
about the enclosure, 1 side lang po yung visible. 3 sides blocked tapos meron din roof incase of rain. problema ko po sa night,kailangan pa po ba ng light para mainitan sila or hindi na? outdoor enclosure po kasi. thanks po
Back to top Go down
View user profile
dlonelyboy
Pet Legend
Pet Legend
avatar

Male
Posts : 1893
Location Carpentaria
Join date : 2012-10-03

PostSubject: Re: Outdoor Enclosure For Sailfin Dragons   Wed Feb 13, 2013 5:08 pm


san ba probinsya mo? kung sa baguio ka di lang uv light ang need mo, pati heating pad kelangan. sa ganyang setup oo kelangan mo nga ng uv light sa gabi since walang natural sunlight na papasok galing taas during daytime.
Back to top Go down
View user profile
yanz.vm
Senior Member
Senior Member
avatar

Male
Posts : 128
Location manila
Join date : 2013-01-29

PostSubject: Re: Outdoor Enclosure For Sailfin Dragons   Wed Feb 13, 2013 5:51 pm

dlonelyboy wrote:

san ba probinsya mo? kung sa baguio ka di lang uv light ang need mo, pati heating pad kelangan. sa ganyang setup oo kelangan mo nga ng uv light sa gabi since walang natural sunlight na papasok galing taas during daytime.
no sir, sa rizal ako.
and about sunlight, like I said, prototype made sya. from 7-12 nn abot ng sunlight kalahati ng enclosure for the hotter spot. then after 12 wala na sunlight.
ang problem ko po yung sa night time. baka masyado malamig outdoors since may spot na open, wire mesh yung spot na yun, baka di nila kayanin yung lamig.
Back to top Go down
View user profile
dlonelyboy
Pet Legend
Pet Legend
avatar

Male
Posts : 1893
Location Carpentaria
Join date : 2012-10-03

PostSubject: Re: Outdoor Enclosure For Sailfin Dragons   Wed Feb 13, 2013 7:11 pm

yanz.vm wrote:
dlonelyboy wrote:

san ba probinsya mo? kung sa baguio ka di lang uv light ang need mo, pati heating pad kelangan. sa ganyang setup oo kelangan mo nga ng uv light sa gabi since walang natural sunlight na papasok galing taas during daytime.
no sir, sa rizal ako.
and about sunlight, like I said, prototype made sya. from 7-12 nn abot ng sunlight kalahati ng enclosure for the hotter spot. then after 12 wala na sunlight.
ang problem ko po yung sa night time. baka masyado malamig outdoors since may spot na open, wire mesh yung spot na yun, baka di nila kayanin yung lamig.

wild-caught ba yan sir? mas malamig sa kabundukan kung san madalas galing ang mga WC sailfins. don't worry kaya nila lamig. lagay ka nlng low-watt uv light para sa gabi. it's the high temp na dapat mo iwasan para di sila madehydrate. remember that sailfins have semi-aquatic habits.
Back to top Go down
View user profile
yanz.vm
Senior Member
Senior Member
avatar

Male
Posts : 128
Location manila
Join date : 2013-01-29

PostSubject: Re: Outdoor Enclosure For Sailfin Dragons   Wed Feb 13, 2013 8:18 pm

dlonelyboy wrote:
yanz.vm wrote:
dlonelyboy wrote:

san ba probinsya mo? kung sa baguio ka di lang uv light ang need mo, pati heating pad kelangan. sa ganyang setup oo kelangan mo nga ng uv light sa gabi since walang natural sunlight na papasok galing taas during daytime.
no sir, sa rizal ako.
and about sunlight, like I said, prototype made sya. from 7-12 nn abot ng sunlight kalahati ng enclosure for the hotter spot. then after 12 wala na sunlight.
ang problem ko po yung sa night time. baka masyado malamig outdoors since may spot na open, wire mesh yung spot na yun, baka di nila kayanin yung lamig.

wild-caught ba yan sir? mas malamig sa kabundukan kung san madalas galing ang mga WC sailfins. don't worry kaya nila lamig. lagay ka nlng low-watt uv light para sa gabi. it's the high temp na dapat mo iwasan para di sila madehydrate. remember that sailfins have semi-aquatic habits.

binili ko sir. natatakot kasi ako dati kase namatayan ako ng sailfin. nadehydrate. tapos yung isa namatay sya nighttime. pareho malakas yun bago mamatay.
so okay lang po ba yung gagawin ko? 24/7 nasa labas kasi outdoor enclosure even at night. maglalagay na lang po ako ng low watt light para just in case sobrang lamig meron sila heat source.
Back to top Go down
View user profile
yanz.vm
Senior Member
Senior Member
avatar

Male
Posts : 128
Location manila
Join date : 2013-01-29

PostSubject: Re: Outdoor Enclosure For Sailfin Dragons   Wed Feb 13, 2013 8:20 pm

one more thing, baka po may tips kayo para sa isang malaking enclosure. good for 1 year lang po yung sakin kase dalawa yung sailfin ko, male and female, so kung meron po kayo na advice para sa isang malaking enclosure, very much appreciated po. Smile
Back to top Go down
View user profile
dlonelyboy
Pet Legend
Pet Legend
avatar

Male
Posts : 1893
Location Carpentaria
Join date : 2012-10-03

PostSubject: Re: Outdoor Enclosure For Sailfin Dragons   Wed Feb 13, 2013 9:13 pm

yanz.vm wrote:
one more thing, baka po may tips kayo para sa isang malaking enclosure. good for 1 year lang po yung sakin kase dalawa yung sailfin ko, male and female, so kung meron po kayo na advice para sa isang malaking enclosure, very much appreciated po. Smile

adults na ba sila? ung length x width ng enclo dapat at least x2 ng total length nila ung height pwede half meter ang taas or higher kung maglalagay ka ng mga kahoy na dapat meron talaga. mas better kung makakapaglagay ka ng palanggana na pwede nila languyan at isang hide na di kelangan malaki basta kasya silang dalawa sa loob. may budget ka naman ata para gumawa ng malaking enclo. good luck sa kanila! Very Happy
Back to top Go down
View user profile
yanz.vm
Senior Member
Senior Member
avatar

Male
Posts : 128
Location manila
Join date : 2013-01-29

PostSubject: Re: Outdoor Enclosure For Sailfin Dragons   Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:46 pm

dlonelyboy wrote:
yanz.vm wrote:
one more thing, baka po may tips kayo para sa isang malaking enclosure. good for 1 year lang po yung sakin kase dalawa yung sailfin ko, male and female, so kung meron po kayo na advice para sa isang malaking enclosure, very much appreciated po. Smile

adults na ba sila? ung length x width ng enclo dapat at least x2 ng total length nila ung height pwede half meter ang taas or higher kung maglalagay ka ng mga kahoy na dapat meron talaga. mas better kung makakapaglagay ka ng palanggana na pwede nila languyan at isang hide na di kelangan malaki basta kasya silang dalawa sa loob. may budget ka naman ata para gumawa ng malaking enclo. good luck sa kanila! Very Happy
Yes Sir! Kahit pakonti-konti, nakukuha ko din naman yung outcome na gusto ko sa enclosure, tiyaga lang talaga. Very Happy
Kumpleto po yun, basking spot, pool, pati plants sa enclosure. gumagawa pa lang po ako ng cave nila or hiding place para sa gabi kapag malamig. salamat po sa tips sir. Smile
Back to top Go down
View user profile
Mazach
Grand Pet Master
Grand Pet Master
avatar

Male
Posts : 805
Location Middle earth
Join date : 2012-04-02

PostSubject: Re: Outdoor Enclosure For Sailfin Dragons   Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:17 am

Ok na yang set up mo sir, post a pic na lang sir pag complete na set up mo para may idea din sa outdoor enclosure ang iba na makakakita ng set up mo thumbs up
Back to top Go down
View user profile
dlonelyboy
Pet Legend
Pet Legend
avatar

Male
Posts : 1893
Location Carpentaria
Join date : 2012-10-03

PostSubject: Re: Outdoor Enclosure For Sailfin Dragons   Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:46 am

yanz.vm wrote:
dlonelyboy wrote:
yanz.vm wrote:
one more thing, baka po may tips kayo para sa isang malaking enclosure. good for 1 year lang po yung sakin kase dalawa yung sailfin ko, male and female, so kung meron po kayo na advice para sa isang malaking enclosure, very much appreciated po. Smile

adults na ba sila? ung length x width ng enclo dapat at least x2 ng total length nila ung height pwede half meter ang taas or higher kung maglalagay ka ng mga kahoy na dapat meron talaga. mas better kung makakapaglagay ka ng palanggana na pwede nila languyan at isang hide na di kelangan malaki basta kasya silang dalawa sa loob. may budget ka naman ata para gumawa ng malaking enclo. good luck sa kanila! Very Happy
Yes Sir! Kahit pakonti-konti, nakukuha ko din naman yung outcome na gusto ko sa enclosure, tiyaga lang talaga. Very Happy
Kumpleto po yun, basking spot, pool, pati plants sa enclosure. gumagawa pa lang po ako ng cave nila or hiding place para sa gabi kapag malamig. salamat po sa tips sir. Smile

anung plants yang nilagay mo? ingat sir ah baka toxic sa kanila yan..
Back to top Go down
View user profile
yanz.vm
Senior Member
Senior Member
avatar

Male
Posts : 128
Location manila
Join date : 2013-01-29

PostSubject: Re: Outdoor Enclosure For Sailfin Dragons   Thu Feb 14, 2013 2:57 pm

Mazach wrote:
Ok na yang set up mo sir, post a pic na lang sir pag complete na set up mo para may idea din sa outdoor enclosure ang iba na makakakita ng set up mo thumbs up
yes sir. medyo maliit sya for a 11 inch sailfin, pero papalitan ko din this summer. okay lang ba na open yun sa gabi? baka kase mamatay yung sailfin sa night time temperature
Back to top Go down
View user profile
yanz.vm
Senior Member
Senior Member
avatar

Male
Posts : 128
Location manila
Join date : 2013-01-29

PostSubject: Re: Outdoor Enclosure For Sailfin Dragons   Thu Feb 14, 2013 3:04 pm


anung plants yang nilagay mo? ingat sir ah baka toxic sa kanila yan.. [/quote]

common terrarium plants po sir, lucky bamboo as shade tapos yung sa hiding spot po may moss sa loob. meron din croton
Back to top Go down
View user profile
Mazach
Grand Pet Master
Grand Pet Master
avatar

Male
Posts : 805
Location Middle earth
Join date : 2012-04-02

PostSubject: Re: Outdoor Enclosure For Sailfin Dragons   Thu Feb 14, 2013 3:07 pm

Ok lang yun, local sp naman ang sailfin at since wala ka naman sa baguio (na mababa ang night time temp) hindi naman nagkakalayo ang temp dyan sa antipolo kesa sa kung saan man sya nahuli, ang importante sa mga WC eh you try to duplicate ang environment nila
Back to top Go down
View user profile
yanz.vm
Senior Member
Senior Member
avatar

Male
Posts : 128
Location manila
Join date : 2013-01-29

PostSubject: Re: Outdoor Enclosure For Sailfin Dragons   Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:04 pm

Mazach wrote:
Ok lang yun, local sp naman ang sailfin at since wala ka naman sa baguio (na mababa ang night time temp) hindi naman nagkakalayo ang temp dyan sa antipolo kesa sa kung saan man sya nahuli, ang importante sa mga WC eh you try to duplicate ang environment nila
okay sir. maraming salamat. Smile
necessary po ba yung cave para sa hiding spot ng sailfin dragon?
Back to top Go down
View user profile
dlonelyboy
Pet Legend
Pet Legend
avatar

Male
Posts : 1893
Location Carpentaria
Join date : 2012-10-03

PostSubject: Re: Outdoor Enclosure For Sailfin Dragons   Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:07 pm

yanz.vm wrote:

anung plants yang nilagay mo? ingat sir ah baka toxic sa kanila yan..

common terrarium plants po sir, lucky bamboo as shade tapos yung sa hiding spot po may moss sa loob. meron din croton[/quote]

a great majority ng terrarium at houseplants natin sir poisonous sa pets. better not risk it baka nguyain ng sailfin yan.

pag bata pa kelangan talaga ng hide kasi mas prone sila sa stress. masasanay naman sila sa tao eventually.
Back to top Go down
View user profile
dlonelyboy
Pet Legend
Pet Legend
avatar

Male
Posts : 1893
Location Carpentaria
Join date : 2012-10-03

PostSubject: Re: Outdoor Enclosure For Sailfin Dragons   Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:03 pm

yanz.vm wrote:
I am currently in the works for an outdoor enclosure for my sailfin.
question ko lang po,is it safe for the sailfins to be left overnight sa isang prototype outdoor enclosure? okay na po kasi yung daytime temperature, worry ko po yung sa nighttime.

kindly disregard everything i said about providing heat (via uv) pag night time. like i originally said mawiwithstand naman nila night time cool temps.
Back to top Go down
View user profile
yanz.vm
Senior Member
Senior Member
avatar

Male
Posts : 128
Location manila
Join date : 2013-01-29

PostSubject: Re: Outdoor Enclosure For Sailfin Dragons   Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:35 pm

dlonelyboy wrote:
yanz.vm wrote:
I am currently in the works for an outdoor enclosure for my sailfin.
question ko lang po,is it safe for the sailfins to be left overnight sa isang prototype outdoor enclosure? okay na po kasi yung daytime temperature, worry ko po yung sa nighttime.

kindly disregard everything i said about providing heat (via uv) pag night time. like i originally said mawiwithstand naman nila night time cool temps.
any idea po sir para sa cave? plano ko po kase out of bricks, meron po kasi kami spare sa bahay.
Back to top Go down
View user profile
felmor
Global
Moderator

GlobalModerator
avatar

Male
Posts : 1201
Location Anywhere would you would be
Join date : 2011-02-13

PostSubject: Re: Outdoor Enclosure For Sailfin Dragons   Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:08 pm

@TS
They can withstand cool temps at night time. for outdoor set up, this is the following you should take note.

1. make sure that there will be direct sunlight hitting your enclosure.
--> why? Sailfin needs heat, they bask in the wild. this doesn't need na buong enclosure tinatamaan, mas maganda part a part of the enclosure lang.
2. malaking source of water sa loob ng enclosure.
--> this is for drinking, and humidity or paligu-an nila. at they will soak in water if they feel that they need to cool down.
3. Branches, since they always stay at trees sa wild kelangan eto para mas parang nasa wild sila. Iwas stres.
4. Hide/Shade, if they don't need heat, they will stay in this place. This will avoid them for overheating which causes heatstroke for most reptiles in captivity na napapabayaan dahil sa maling akala. Smile

another thing, I'd rather not put live plants, kakainin nila yan, if its not edible para sa kanila. baka malason pa. Smile

hope it helps


dlonelyboy wrote:
yanz.vm wrote:
I am currently in the works for an outdoor enclosure for my sailfin.
question ko lang po,is it safe for the sailfins to be left overnight sa isang prototype outdoor enclosure? okay na po kasi yung daytime temperature, worry ko po yung sa nighttime.

kindly disregard everything i said about providing heat (via uv) pag night time. like i originally said mawiwithstand naman nila night time cool temps.

dlonelyboy wrote:

wild-caught ba yan sir? mas malamig sa kabundukan kung san madalas galing ang mga WC sailfins. don't worry kaya nila lamig. lagay ka nlng low-watt uv light para sa gabi. it's the high temp na dapat mo iwasan para di sila madehydrate. remember that sailfins have semi-aquatic habits.

just to correct.. mali pong pag bigay ng UV sa night time. they'll be stress lang. it's because they need to sleep too.. Smile





[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
[Forum Rules And Regulation]

Back to top Go down
View user profile
Mazach
Grand Pet Master
Grand Pet Master
avatar

Male
Posts : 805
Location Middle earth
Join date : 2012-04-02

PostSubject: Re: Outdoor Enclosure For Sailfin Dragons   Sat Feb 16, 2013 12:54 pm

Ang hibiscus plant (aka gumamela) safe sa lizards, part ng diet to ng mga igauna ko
Back to top Go down
View user profile
felmor
Global
Moderator

GlobalModerator
avatar

Male
Posts : 1201
Location Anywhere would you would be
Join date : 2011-02-13

PostSubject: Re: Outdoor Enclosure For Sailfin Dragons   Sun Feb 17, 2013 10:57 am

Mazach wrote:
Ang hibiscus plant (aka gumamela) safe sa lizards, part ng diet to ng mga igauna ko

yes, maganda yan for sailfin, yung bd ng kaibigan ko favorite pang kainin yan. Smile




[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
[Forum Rules And Regulation]

Back to top Go down
View user profile
yanz.vm
Senior Member
Senior Member
avatar

Male
Posts : 128
Location manila
Join date : 2013-01-29

PostSubject: Re: Outdoor Enclosure For Sailfin Dragons   Sun Feb 17, 2013 7:37 pm

felmor wrote:
@TS
They can withstand cool temps at night time. for outdoor set up, this is the following you should take note.

1. make sure that there will be direct sunlight hitting your enclosure.
--> why? Sailfin needs heat, they bask in the wild. this doesn't need na buong enclosure tinatamaan, mas maganda part a part of the enclosure lang.
2. malaking source of water sa loob ng enclosure.
--> this is for drinking, and humidity or paligu-an nila. at they will soak in water if they feel that they need to cool down.
3. Branches, since they always stay at trees sa wild kelangan eto para mas parang nasa wild sila. Iwas stres.
4. Hide/Shade, if they don't need heat, they will stay in this place. This will avoid them for overheating which causes heatstroke for most reptiles in captivity na napapabayaan dahil sa maling akala. Smile

another thing, I'd rather not put live plants, kakainin nila yan, if its not edible para sa kanila. baka malason pa. Smile

hope it helps

Thanks a lot. natapos ko na yung cage, but my problem is that nagkasugat yung sailfin ko cause of ramming the wire, I used the common screen mesh, the green plastic screen, then napansin ko yung wound nya sa mouth this morning, slight lang naman pero I'm worried that his Mouth Rot may come back.
Everything on the list is done with my cage, wala naman sharp edges, so ano po maganda gawin? should I put him back to my custom Durabox?(I used this with my Nile Croc when she was still small, 10 inches in length) meron naman po kase yun screen and naarawan naman yung sailfin ko dun, but not much. Or should I stay with the Custom Cage?
dlonelyboy wrote:
yanz.vm wrote:
I am currently in the works for an outdoor enclosure for my sailfin.
question ko lang po,is it safe for the sailfins to be left overnight sa isang prototype outdoor enclosure? okay na po kasi yung daytime temperature, worry ko po yung sa nighttime.

kindly disregard everything i said about providing heat (via uv) pag night time. like i originally said mawiwithstand naman nila night time cool temps.

dlonelyboy wrote:

wild-caught ba yan sir? mas malamig sa kabundukan kung san madalas galing ang mga WC sailfins. don't worry kaya nila lamig. lagay ka nlng low-watt uv light para sa gabi. it's the high temp na dapat mo iwasan para di sila madehydrate. remember that sailfins have semi-aquatic habits.

just to correct.. mali pong pag bigay ng UV sa night time. they'll be stress lang. it's because they need to sleep too.. Smile

Back to top Go down
View user profile
yanz.vm
Senior Member
Senior Member
avatar

Male
Posts : 128
Location manila
Join date : 2013-01-29

PostSubject: Re: Outdoor Enclosure For Sailfin Dragons   Sun Feb 17, 2013 7:40 pm

And one thing, Pano po yung Hiding Spot? ano maganda Material(s) para dun? any suggestions would help a lot, thanks po. Smile)))
Back to top Go down
View user profile
yanz.vm
Senior Member
Senior Member
avatar

Male
Posts : 128
Location manila
Join date : 2013-01-29

PostSubject: Re: Outdoor Enclosure For Sailfin Dragons   Mon Feb 18, 2013 7:52 pm

Thanks a lot. natapos ko na yung cage, but my problem is that nagkasugat yung sailfin ko cause of ramming the wire, I used the common screen mesh, the green plastic screen, then napansin ko yung wound nya sa mouth this morning, slight lang naman pero I'm worried that his Mouth Rot may come back.
Everything on the list is done with my cage, wala naman sharp edges, so ano po maganda gawin? should I put him back to my custom Durabox?(I used this with my Nile Croc when she was still small, 10 inches in length) meron naman po kase yun screen and naarawan naman yung sailfin ko dun, but not much. Or should I stay with the Custom Cage?
Back to top Go down
View user profile
Sponsored content




PostSubject: Re: Outdoor Enclosure For Sailfin Dragons   

Back to top Go down
 
Outdoor Enclosure For Sailfin Dragons
View previous topic View next topic Back to top 
Page 1 of 2Go to page : 1, 2  Next
 Similar topics
-
» 15 Baby Water Dragons Swimming in the Bath
» Baby Water Dragons YAY!!!! :)
» My Outdoor Bunnies
» Outdoor Showers and other Gray Water issues
» Is it possible to make an outdoor rabbit an indoor rabbit ?

Permissions in this forum:You cannot reply to topics in this forum
Philippine Exotic Pets :: General Discussion :: Exotics :: Lizards :: Lizard Questions and Problem-
Jump to: